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@Sobriety7 I’m not sure what the deal is with Youtube and posting. You say “it worked and nothing else did”. What else, exactly, did you try? I ask because people in AA say often say that, and it usually turns out that they were making half-hearted attempts to control their drinking, and then quit completely and went to AA. Being in AA when you decided to quit does not mean that AA made it happen. Mike
@blamethenile well all I can say is that it worked for me and nothing else did, this time last year I was practically dead and now I have a new life. I don’t see that as a minefield. I became a Buddhist off my own back whilst in AA, no-one else I know in AA did, or has anything to do with that. I just don’t see how that is harmful or cultish
@blamethenile well all I can say is that it worked for me and nothing else did, this time last year I was practically dead and now I have a new life. I don’t see that as a minefield. I became a Buddhist off my own back whilst in AA, no-one else I know in AA did, or has anything to do with that. I just don’t see how that is harmful or cultish.
@blamethenile well all I can say is that it worked for me and nothing else did, this time last year I was practically dead and now I have a new life. I don’t see that as a minefield. I became a Buddhist off my own back whilst in AA, no-one else I know in AA did, or has anything to do with that. I just don’t see how that is harmful or cultish.
@blamethenile – well all I can say is that it worked for me and nothing else did, this time last year I was practically dead and now I have a new life. I don’t see that as a minefield. I became a Buddhist off my own back whilst in AA, no-one else I know in AA did, or has anything to do with that. I just don’t see how that is harmful or cultish…
@Sobriety7 I have met thousands of AA members, and none ever admitted to atheism in the rewmz, but many claim to be here on the internet. I hear they do have their own meetings in largre cities. Of course, no one gets thrown out of AA, since nearly all leave on their own, anyway. “Dabbled in atheism” is a nonsensical choice of phrasing. Mike
for goodness sake just go to the meetings, do the programme and tell them you’re an atheist…no-one’s going to throw you out…I dabbled with atheism for a while when I was in AA and that’s the first time in my life that I did…I found the programme just encouraged me to find whatever I wanted my higher power to be…that isn’t cultish and I know loads of atheists in AA, it’s no big deal…we’re all grown ups…why all this fuss???
“half of life is being there.” Basically, that is the source of AA success. To the extent that it is.
humyepright, you hit the nail on the head! I feel the same way, I would do the same, check on them in a few years & see the progress (or lack thereof), but it would require that I care enough to actually drive there…. and frankly, I do not.
AA, the biggest collection of ignorant adults I have ever been associated with. It works for a few, and you will find them there daily spewing bad advice, & never growing never changing & still lying about any & all subjects, in this self proclaimed program of honesty. These people wouldn’t know honest if it slapped them in the face. I went for nearly 2 years, worst experience of my life. Sober now, and free from their ridiculous program which does NOT WORK for INTELLIGENT people.
You are quire welcome. Not one of our more popular videos, but it has its target audience. Thanks for the post. Mike
Thank you for uploading this.
all the little lemmings drink the kool-aid with glee
Many of us left AA because we don’t want what AA thinks it has but doesn’t. I didn’t find anything I want in my life 10, 20, 30 years sober at AA like the old-timers. In 5 years I intend to visit my ex-home group to see how much all those fake winners have changed. They spoke the same things over and over the years I tried AA. It was the worst time of my life trying to a peace of mind in the AA nightmares of incurable, illogical, deadly, insane disease. Maybe that is what you want, but I don’t.
Resign from the debating society and never investigate the truth about the lies AA teaches. Cliches and slogans, abuse, group crimes, love-bombing bait/switch to cold silence are not an intelligent solutions to any problem. Stay forever in lasting ignorance and never question anything AA says. People in AA who fail to look at the factual documents that disect AA’s ideology into the false solution for alcohol that it is harm others daily. Good luck telling God AA is his will.
I would love to see AA members stand face-to-face and try to convince God that what they are doing is God’s will. I don’t think there is one AA member who could face the truth about the lies and abuse of AA’s program. Maybe AA is wrong. If you tell a lie long enough you start to believe it and then all lies become the truth until society is duped by the biggest lie of their own making. God didn’t tell anyone to do the things they do esp. when it harms people.
I go to no church and believe in NO religion. AA, Baptists, Catholics, all you believers keep saying “Keep coming back” and don’t forget to drop a buck into the collection plate. I quit drinking and drugging 2 years ago.
Why would you suggest that I now spend the rest of my life wallowing in the crap I created in my and my families life. I will not go back to the cult. I think. I am part of the debating society and will drink the kool-aid without complaint no, more. Your in a cult dude!!!
keep coming back, dude!
Dude, you make no sense at all. Most religions are filled with un-trained folks. And, if you keep going to meetings long enough, you lose the ability to think for yourself and resign from the debating society. You accept indoctrination readily.
But I think you are fundamentally wrong in your thinking that faith healing has anything to do with quitting. There is no external “higher power”. I have 5 years in the program and 2 years out. Only determined people quit, god did nothing.
AA, thank god, is full of un-trained folk in the rooms, we are all amateurs in the room regardless of professional status outside the rooms.
I guarantee if one keeps coming to meetings and wants what we in AA have we resign from the debating society.
Correct, straight down the line. Mike
But not getting high or drinking has NOTHING to do with GOD. You play pop-psychologist. “Explain to me how you see god so I can see how you project yourself.” That un-trained treatment is another of AA’s great failings.
If your talking god, your talking religion.
Personally I try and ask newcomers to examine their concept of a GOD. it is almost always an extension and projection of self. Great piece by Maynard btw.
So you found god in AA. GREAT!!!! That is what AA is there for.
There is no “work” nor is there really relapse, there is only commitment to sobriety. You are either using or not. The only attitude necessary to change is the attitude about drinking and drugging.